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zazzy
02-09-2007, 04:40 PM
How come posting 1 external link affect the ranking of a site?
I think this one is very very confusing.
here's the catch:
Site A asked Site B to to post their links to site A. but guess what? Site B refused to because they said that their SEO partner suggest them not to put any of their links to site A because it will just affect their site rankings.
huh? how come that thing happens? as I know it would give more benefits to site B and it will not degrade their rankings...
:confused: anu kaya un:confused:
benjarriola
02-09-2007, 04:56 PM
The only reason i can see why site B would not agree to link to site A is either any of the these:
Leaking link juice (PR)
Some people view PR as gold, toolbar PR, although a low PR website can still rank high, but there is also some money in PR so some people do not like "leaking" PR. The more outbound links you have, your PR decreases unless it is compensated with a large amount of inbound links.
Bad neighborhood link
If the site is linking porn, pills, casino etc.
Pride chicken, ayaw makipag link at parang competitor
Sometimes people that go for link exchanges are in the same business, para relevant ang links. Some go for it lalo na if magkaiba geographic target market nila. Let's say mortgage company ako sa California. Wusto ko makipag link exchange sa isang Mortgage company sa Florida. Ayaw ni Florida kasi kalaban na mortgage company 'yun. Pero tanga sya kung ganun kasi sobrang layo naman ang mga lugar, magkaiba target market nila.
Tanga lang yung SEO ng site B
Hmmm parang ganun na nga. *LOL* Hindi nya alam bakit dapat ilagay, hindi nya alam kung maganda or pangit, so decline na lang. :D
Maybe meron pang ibang reason. Pero hindi ko alam.
zazzy
02-09-2007, 05:20 PM
Leaking link juice (PR)
Some people view PR as gold, toolbar PR, although a low PR website can still rank high, but there is also some money in PR so some people do not like "leaking" PR. The more outbound links you have, your PR decreases unless it is compensated with a large amount of inbound links.
I think it’s not a big issue kase both of them have a nice PR. Site A – PR5 and site B – PR6. tingin ko d naman ganun kalala ang difference, so I can’t see PR as an issue
Bad neighborhood link
If the site is linking porn, pills, casino etc.
They are both health related site.
Pride chicken, ayaw makipag link at parang competitor
Sometimes people that go for link exchanges are in the same business, para relevant ang links. Some go for it lalo na if magkaiba geographic target market nila. Let's say mortgage company ako sa California. Wusto ko makipag link exchange sa isang Mortgage company sa Florida. Ayaw ni Florida kasi kalaban na mortgage company 'yun. Pero tanga sya kung ganun kasi sobrang layo naman ang mga lugar, magkaiba target market nila.
Malamang isang factor eto.. baka iniisip nila na mas kikita si site A kung maglalagay ng links ng site B sa site A
Tanga lang yung SEO ng site B
Hmmm parang ganun na nga. *LOL* Hindi nya alam bakit dapat ilagay, hindi nya alam kung maganda or pangit, so decline na lang. :D
^_^YAN ANG SAGOT! Malamang SHONGA nga ang SEO partner nila o nagdadamot!
:rolleyes:
carmelodiaz
02-09-2007, 07:08 PM
well i dont know the sites, so i might be wrong...
One thing would be the relevancy of the website's theme...maybe site A is not that relevant to site B...all links are not good links...it doesnt mean that the more links you have the higher you will rank on SE's
It should be the more credible, related and SE friendly links that you have the higher your ranking.
Being SEO optimized should not just be observed on your site but also with the sites that are linking to you.
or it can also be "pride chicken" as Benj calls it:D, "the PR issues"...it can be site A has lower PR than site B...i hate this kind of sites, yung tipong magrereply sayo ng "Sorry your site does not meet our criteria cause you have a PR of **"
When getting link partners(which some people think is bad - reciprocal linking) PR should be the least of your worries...you should go for relevancy and everything else follows...PageRank shoul not even be on your check list in getting link partners.
chimeron
02-11-2007, 08:45 PM
^_^YAN ANG SAGOT! Malamang SHONGA nga ang SEO partner nila o nagdadamot!
mas eng-eng naman siguro ang mag-ko-conclude kaagad-agad ng ganito :D.
there are a thousand and one reasons why someone will refuse mga offers of link exchange. and given the info you posted, there really isn't anything concrete we can work on to intelligently deduce the "reason behind" the decision not to link.
malay ba natin kung site A has a bad rep sa niche nila kaya ayaw ni site B. malay be natin kung site A is practicing triangular linking among his sites. o malay ba natin kung mother-in-law ni SEO ng site B yung owner ng site A :D
majorkontrapelo
02-11-2007, 09:15 PM
I've read something about linking porn, pills, casino etc in this thread. Does this really hurts? Ganun ba katalino ang search engine to discriminate a site having links to this types?
Based on my experience...definitely not!!!! I've been selling pre-pages, sitewides, and much of likes into porn, pharmaceuticals and gambling but it doesnt give any effect into my site...and take note, they've been there for such a period of time!
For me personally, they don't affect my site really, it's their site that is being affected for taking a link on my site;)
Site B refused to because they said that their SEO partner suggest them not to put any of their links to site A because it will just affect their site rankings.
Any link whether coming from a very good site or from a very bad site still is considered a link. Having a link coming from the baddest/poorest site existing will surely make me happy;) Site B is one hell of a site that really don't know where to go to... Tell him to get some advice while its free:rolleyes:
chimeron
02-11-2007, 11:01 PM
:D wehehehe
ang hirap talaga matuto sa mga forums :p
zazzy
02-15-2007, 03:49 PM
mas eng-eng naman siguro ang mag-ko-conclude kaagad-agad ng ganito :D.
ah eng - eng ba yon?!:rolleyes:
sensya na ha... d kase ako kasing galing mo... sensya na kung "ENG - ENG" ako
maepaulino
02-15-2007, 04:08 PM
ah eng - eng ba yon?!:rolleyes:
sensya na ha... d kase ako kasing galing mo... sensya na kung "ENG - ENG" ako
walang pikunan... hehehe siguro dapat di tayo nag ge-generalize para di rin tayo ma-generalize diba? :)
Loisel
02-15-2007, 07:41 PM
I agree with sir Chimeron...
mas eng-eng naman siguro ang mag-ko-conclude kaagad-agad ng ganito.
there are a thousand and one reasons why someone will refuse mga offers of link exchange. and given the info you posted, there really isn't anything concrete we can work on to intelligently deduce the "reason behind" the decision not to link.
malay ba natin kung site A has a bad rep sa niche nila kaya ayaw ni site B. malay be natin kung site A is practicing triangular linking among his sites. o malay ba natin kung mother-in-law ni SEO ng site B yung owner ng site A
ah eng - eng ba yon?!
sensya na ha... d kase ako kasing galing mo... sensya na kung "ENG - ENG" ako
its not a matter of kashongahan o kagalingan sa SEO. and wala naman ding contest sa forum na to right? I think its just a normal Karma sabi nga ni Mae
walang pikunan... hehehe siguro dapat di tayo nag ge-generalize para di rin tayo ma-generalize diba?
unang una the details are not complete, pero kahit i assume natin na equal ang lahat ng bagay, madami pa ring tanong and sa tingin ko, ganyan kalalim ang SEO.
"Alam ko din na wala ako sa lugar para sabihin ang mga bagay na toh since noob pa lang ako".
Pero base sa tanong, it is very theoritical question which deserve to be answer theoretically...
so kagaya nga nang nangyari, panay possible answer lang ang binigay nila.
and wala ni isa man ang nagsabi na, this answer is definitely the true...
So again, kahit nag agree ako sa post ng iba, Di ko sinasabi na tama sila at tama ako, nag judge lang ako base on my ignorance...
at kung sa palagay ng iba ay mali ako? well, i'll accept it. besides, wala namang perfect na tao.
zazzy
02-16-2007, 03:20 PM
oh yeah right!
sorry guys ha... pasensya na po :D
benjarriola
02-17-2007, 03:42 PM
Based on my experience...definitely not!!!! I've been selling pre-pages, sitewides, and much of likes into porn, pharmaceuticals and gambling but it doesnt give any effect into my site...and take note, they've been there for such a period of time!
For me personally, they don't affect my site really, it's their site that is being affected for taking a link on my site;)
Any link whether coming from a very good site or from a very bad site still is considered a link. Having a link coming from the baddest/poorest site existing will surely make me happy;) Site B is one hell of a site that really don't know where to go to... Tell him to get some advice while its free:rolleyes:
Actually I totally agree with Major K.
Which is why I said in my first answer:
"The only reason i can see why site B would not agree to link to site A is either any of the these:"
But that does not necessarily mean I believe in what I said. It is my opinion on what I think a person would be thinking if ever that person refuses to link.
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